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The Sacramento Short Sale Closing Against the Odds
This was the Sacramento short sale that closed against the odds. If it wasn’t for the fact that I knew the buyer’s agent and had faith in her abilities, this particular short sale closing might never have happened. It’s almost as though we “willed it” to a conclusion, so closing occurred. Of course, having years of experience in closing hundreds of short sales helps — there is no denying that fact — but this particular short sale presented so many unique challenges. The sellers were very cooperative, too, which made the horribleness bearable.
The problem with this particular Sacramento short sale was not the fact there were two loans between Bank of America and Green Tree. I negotiate many short sales with two loans. Moreover, Green Tree is not a problem for me like it seems to be for other agents. After years of hammering, I’ve got the process down pat and know intimately how Green Tree operates. It also wasn’t the fact that there was a SMUD lien filed against the property. I know what to do with those, too. It was the condition of the home.
This is where many Sacramento short sale agents throw in the towel.
Half of the home was remodeled and the other half was not. Further, it needed a new roof because the existing roof was beyond its useful life. Did I mention the pest work? The conundrum: The seller is not responsible for the repairs. Buyers don’t want to do any work and they don’t have any money anyway. Toss into that mix the fact the bank wanted top dollar for this home — the same sales price as for a home in excellent condition — and couple that nonsense with there is really no arguing with the bank.
Unless there is strong argument, which is rare. Arguing with a short sale bank is usually a wasted effort because the banks just don’t care. The value banks typically want rarely reflect the BPO as much as it does the bottom-line net the bank could obtain through other financial options. The bank insisted on a crazy high list price, which I eventually convinced them to reduce. The buyers offered an even lower price, but they were willing to obtain an energy efficient mortgage (which involves a little known credit) and pay for other repairs.
I trusted the buyer’s agent to perform. This is where industry experience and networking pays off. We had the perfect match in this transaction. I had the sellers who needed to sell and she had the buyers who needed to buy. Challenges be damned.
The buyers didn’t have a lot of money, and we needed to rely on first-time home buyer loans and repair loans to help them to buy this house. Their agent is a pro at navigating the waters for first-time home buyers. Getting the approval from the bank for this Sacramento short sale was the first step. The second step was renegotiation with the bank. Yes, I know this goes against all that I preach about short sales and buying the home in AS IS condition without any further renegotiations but this was a special case. It wasn’t motivated by financial gain or greed.
I developed a strategy and presented a compelling case. We obtained the price reduction. The buyers got the home of their dreams. OK, maybe it’s not the home of their dreams right now, but it will be after the new roof is installed, the sewer lines are fixed, the pest work is completed and they eventually remodel the other half of the home. Sometimes, you’ve just got to have faith in the experience of your real estate agents to pull off what seems like an impossible transaction.
Oh, I almost forgot to mention. The sellers walked out of this with about $7,500 in cash from the bank. This was a sweet short sale, despite the additional work.
Selling a Sacramento Home as a Short Sale After Bankruptcy
There is only one way to sell an underwater home in Sacramento after a bankruptcy has been discharged and finally dismissed, and that method is through a short sale. Doing a short sale after bankruptcy is a greater challenge than doing a short sale before bankruptcy. A short sale after bankruptcy is not a slam dunk, like your lawyer might have promised (lawyers don’t sell homes nor typically negotiate short sales). Sometimes, people think these abandoned homes are great bargains, but generally the banks still insist on receiving market value, and market value is subjective — especially when the home sits in ruins as compared to the surrounding homes and the bank won’t take that condition into consideration when determining value.
See, that’s the thing. People erroneously believe that a bank cares about the condition of a home, and that belief is a foolish assumption. Yes, it makes logical sense that a bank would care, so I understand why you might have formed that assumption because to presume otherwise goes against all that is sane and objective, but let’s remember, we’re talking about our financial banking institutions in the United States. Let’s get real. Banks don’t care.
I closed yesterday another Sacramento home as a short sale after bankruptcy. Bankruptcy does not release the home from the seller’s name. That title and mortgage lien(s) remain. I’m not sure why homeowners sometimes do not understand that they still need to get rid of the house after bankruptcy is over, and that the house is generally not very desirable at that point. Squatters break in. Water leaks develop. Mold can happen. Stuff breaks. And it’s generally been vacant for 6 months to a couple of years, depending on how long the bankruptcy took, and lawyers don’t enjoy a reputation for fast service.
After a home has been discharged in a bankruptcy, the lenders cannot ask a seller for financial records such as bank statements, tax returns and payroll stubs. However, that did not stop Bank of America nor Green Tree from demanding those documents, even after I informed them they are quite possibly breaking federal law. Sometimes, you have to decide on which hill you want to die, and the sellers did not want to die on the paperwork hill, so they submitted the demanded paperwork in protest.
Service Link, representing Bank of America, managed to mangle the HUD 12 ways from Sunday. We submitted various adaptions and argued and argued until Service Link finally accepted the fact that certain customary expenses are seller-paid fees in a short sale transaction. You can’t really blame them because these third-party vendors work on short sales in many other states and customs vary, although it doesn’t explain why they operate unsupervised.
Later, Green Tree came back just prior to closing and insisted that the sellers sign a letter stating they do not have to submit their paperwork because this was a short sale after bankruptcy. Of course, by then it was water under the bridge, and I honestly don’t know how this company stays in business, apart from the Peter Principle that plagues many corporate entities. Oh, wait, I hear Green Tree is under investigation by the FTC.
Fortunately, I managed to sidestep a big fight with Green Tree on the payoff. That’s another thing people don’t understand after a bankruptcy, they think the banks will rollover because the liens are worthless. I’m telling ya the banks won’t. They fully realize the fresh start sellers still require the bank’s cooperation.
Then, several months into the short sale, Bank of America — as has been its policy lately with these underwater mortgages — elected to sell the mortgage to another company, in this case, Bayview. Just as Bank of America was ready to issue the approval, whammo, it forced us to start the process over with Bayview. Did I mention I only get paid once and I get paid the same whether it’s a short sale or a regular equity sale?
Bayview then conducted its own BPO and decided the price needed to be about $25,000 higher, which it may as well have offered to burn down the house, that demand made about as much sense. Part of the “price valuations” is they have often little to do with actual value and are more about how much the bank needs to net. This is akin to a seller telling me she needs to sell at $500,000 because she needs the cash when her home is worth $300,000. Her needs in that case are not relevant and completely unobtainable.
The demand for a higher price from Bayview happened right after thugs broke into the garage, and they also swiped the AC unit, including the lockbox off the front door, along with the front door handle. There was no compensation to the buyer for that, of course, and that was a delicate situation to overcome.
The good news is we closed escrow yesterday, about 6 months after I listed this home. This was actually a fairly fast short sale after a bankruptcy. The types of problems I’ve shared with you concerning bankruptcy and short sales are very common as well. If you need an agent to sell your home after a bankruptcy, you should call your Sacramento short sale agent Elizabeth Weintraub at 916 233 6759. There is no reason to list your home until the bankruptcy has been fully completed. An order to discharge does not count; you need the case closed.
Insight Into a Green Tree Short Sale in Sacramento
I know a Sacramento short sale agent or two who will not work on a Green Tree short sale, but I manage to get these short sales accepted. I will admit that it’s a bit easier when Green Tree is in first position (and perhaps just the servicer) than it is when Green Tree is in second position and say, hard money. Especially in California. Because those hard-money second loans carry recourse.
This means if the bank did not approve the short sale and the home went to foreclosure, a second lender may have the right to go after the seller and try to collect if that loan was not purchase money. It’s also a reason that some banks, not necessarily just Green Tree, might think twice about approving a short sale. Because if the bank approves the short sale, the bank needs to release the seller from personal liability. That’s not the case with foreclosure of hard-money loans. Moreover, sometimes banks are paid more money to go to foreclosure.
Green Tree’s policy is to approve a short sale in 90 days. It’s not unusual, depending on the negotiator, for Green Tree to issue the short sale approval letter in a shorter time frame. One of the troubles that can arise is Green Tree, when in second position, might issue short sale approval before the first lender. If the first lender takes too long, that approval from Green Tree can expire. If it expires, Green Tree might not issue an extension. A short sale extension is not always guaranteed, even though some people might think so.
On the other hand, if the short sale approval from Green Tree has expired, it might also send the file to its charge-off department, depending on the length of time that transpired after the last mortgage payment. Once the file gets to the short sale charge-off team, there is no guarantee that the department will accept the same terms as stated in the previous approval letter.
If you’re looking for a short sale agent in the Sacramento Valley to handle your short sale, you should select an agent with vast experience. I’ve sold more than $65 million in short sales since 2006. Call Elizabeth Weintraub at 916.233.6759.
Super Bowl Sunday 2014 and Sacramento Open Houses
Home buyers in Sacramento were out in droves over the weekend, attending open houses, touring new listings and writing offers. This was the one weekend in January to do it because we got a break in those football games. Granted, I am not a person who watches football. I am probably in the minority but football doesn’t interest me. Not even if I imagine the team players as short sale negotiators at various banks — oh look, Bank of America just swiped the ball from Green Tree, and Wells Fargo bashed PNC in the head. Nope, still doesn’t do it for me.
Next weekend, of course, will be Super Bowl Sunday 2014, and it’s just not a good weekend for an open house. Oh, sure, there are Super Bowl widows and widowers who will be out and about, but the bulk of Americans will be focused on who will win the Super Bowl. Big Super Bowl parties everywhere except at my house. I’m not even sure who is playing, I think Denver and . . . After we get past this next weekend, it should be clear sailing through spring into summer for Sacramento real estate.
A negotiator at SLS called me this morning to ask when we would record on a short sale scheduled for closing. I told her it would be tomorrow. But what TIME, she persisted, almost in a whiny voice. Well, Sacramento has 5 recording times — it will be one of those, I offered. One of those 5 times. Don’t know which one. She probably would have smacked me if we were sitting across the table from each other.
But then I’d throw a football into her face and break her nose.
Sacramento Real Estate, TMJ and Linda Ronstadt’s Book
If I had to do it over again, I would not have let the dentist yank out 2 upper molars and 2 lower teeth at the same time. This is a person, mind you, who back in her youth had one wisdom tooth at a time extracted, yet, when it comes to implants, I tell them the more the merrier, just rip ’em all out. Hello, TMJ? I share this bit of over-the-top information with my readers so if you are ever in the same boat, and we are all getting older in this life, remember my advice.
Yet, I still continue to work because the work is there and my clients count on me. I’m also addicted to real estate, as my husband will attest. Just because I’m staggering around the house like Dr. House, popping Vicodin and kicking little kittens to the wall with my cane, doesn’t mean I’m not hard at work, either. For proof, here is a photo of our new kitten, Tessa. Oblivious to the fact her toothless mom is in agony.
I can’t really concentrate on the agony or feeling sorry for my miserable self when there is so much going on. Despite everything, I managed to sell two homes: a home in Elk Grove and another in the Med Center. I also listed two homes, a condo in Arden Arcade area and a fixer in South Sacramento.
Then, yesterday, a third-party vendor for Bank of America called. I realize they have to read scripts and are reined in so tightly their elbows rub their cubicle desk-mates’, but they don’t have to talk like Lily Tomlin doing Ernestine. Fortunately, I have my iPad next to me in bed, where I was resting my jaw and could look up all of the information requested. The negotiators now call to let agents know that they’ve uploaded a counter offer in Equator. The used to just send an unending series of emails, but now they also call.
The counter offer was missing the payoff to the second. This was not a case of a miraculous second mortgage release. The second was still secured to the property. It also missed authorization for documentary transfer stamps. I could issue a counter to the negotiator’s counter, but see, then I’m labeled a troublemaker and they get irritated. It’s a lot more interesting to simply accept the counter and then point out the mistakes. Think about it. I’m just trying to comply with their wishes. I can’t help their bozo factor.
We now wait for the negotiator to fix the errors on her end so we can move forward. It’s not like this short sale will have its approval delayed because of this tactic because we’ve still got lovely Green Tree to contend with. Green Tree, if it wants to, can take 90 days to approve. I still close many short sales in Sacramento, although the volume of short sales has decreased and the volume of regular sales has increased dramatically this year, yay!
I have also managed to squeeze in some reading. Just finished downloading and reading Linda Ronstadt’s book, Simple Dreams . Simply put, it’s a simple book. If you’re looking for insight into Linda Ronstadt, what she thinks, hopes, her aspirations, opinions, dreams, any specific details from her life, you won’t get it from this book. It’s possible she has nothing to share. I read the book wondering didn’t she ever date anyone? Jerry Brown, for example? There was a photo of them running on the beach.
My husband and I saw Linda Ronstadt perform in January of 2009 at the Mondavi Center in Davis, California. She stopped singing a short 9 months later. Parkinson’s. Even though her book was a disappointment to me, Linda Ronstadt herself is inspirational.
At least I can hang my future on the fact that some morning I will get up and my jaw will no longer ache. My implants will be in place, and I’ll be experiencing chomper bliss. And Sacramento real estate will continue to move on.